The attitude of Indian Hindus towards British Hindus
A few of my friends had started a new Hindu Society in their university, as it hadn’t existed earlier. They wanted it to be a place for Hindus and those interested in Hinduism to come together in celebration of Hindu Dharma and be conversant about a wide range of issues effecting Hindus and Hinduism. Freshers’ fairs offer the unique opportunity to present yourself and your society to other students, and are also a great time to meet both a diverse range of people and to get involved in common causes and activities with like-minded people. So I went to the fair to help my friends with their stall.
The day was going great, until…
November 9th, 2007 at 7:43 am
Quest to find Question
The subject is interesting…How ever belonging to place cant not identify the knowing / following of Dharma (as duty)
The quest starts from knowing self & then knowing where I come from & where I go..
That leads to knowledge of being as part of nature where nature becomes sole supreme, as it represents everything including self + all the rest of phenomena around
To study the phenomena of nature is supreme study on planet earth
&
To suitably adopt the life on planet earth is in line with constants of nature, really is smart adaptation as it takes the conflicts out of life.
Accumulation of such adoptions points way to live life… experimented & adopted by ancestors & served to us on a silver-platter, ready for us to practice as rules to live & lead progressive life.
Those adopters became progressive living souls & those who neglected were seen living beastly life.
How-ever the constants of nature never change with time…
Sun is the sole source of energy on planet earth… the rotation of Earth around Sun & Moon around Earth & its effect, elements of the planet, cycle of life & death itself etc are among such constants of nature & knowledge of constancy in cycle of Creation, Propagation & Destroying is knowledge of pure science …
Religion is practicing such knowledge in life, to make living free of unnecessary struggle.
When one limit him/her-self to adopt Islam or Christianity or Judaism etc… he/she limit to reach to the core of the pure science.
Number count of its followers with limits set for their wisdom does adversely represent liv’er of inferior life. It is like selecting the inferior thing when better or best is available… Why worship Moon when Sun exist ??
Beyond the above, the accumulation of practicable core science is known as “Sanatan Dharma” The adopters of it are known as “Sanatan Dharmi”. May be they are not big in number or strong in exhibiting power, but they live peaceful /exemplary life.
Life is only one & all going out of it empty handed, then why be against other leaving beings??
I belong to that Religion /”Sanatan Dharma”
For adopting life of present time… Learning of only Bhagvat-Puran…(One of eighteen Purans_+ Vedas & several other scriptures from Core Science) is sufficient. All answers are there… there is no focus/fight to increase number or possess more …. Its in scripts are not thousand – two thousand years old… they are many thousand years older then time in memorial..
The answers are already there … it is only quest to find questions..!!
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November 9th, 2007 at 10:06 am
I as a Hindu Indian went to Britain for higher Study. I could see a lot Indian looking students on campus, if I ask them are you from India, I got the replies, I am British.
Then I have realised living in the Dormitories that British Indians have a few major tribes: Gujarati Hindus, Sikhs, Punjabi Hindus.
Gujarti Hindus consider themselves as British, they do not want to talk to the Natives.
Sikhs are very friendly when he is alone, but if they are two or three immediately they seperate themselves as a group and their customs and beliefs are very alien to us.
Punjabi Hindus are friendly only to those Indians who comes from Delhi or nearby places. They are closed for other Indians.
There are some Muslim Indians come every year, they only mix with Pakistanis and people from the Middle East and very hostile towards non-Muslim Indians, so I leave them out.
It is very difficult for us, the Indian Hindus to mix with British Hindus, as they think they are superior, as they can speak English with not-so-Indian accent. Also they always talk about money money money, particularly if they are doctors in Britain.
About Hinduism, I am sure they know nothing at all, not only that they know nothing about the geography of India, as the British education is very poor. They only have the British arrogant that if we do not know anything because these are not important for us to know.
For the British Hindus, Dewali means Disco, Hooli means Disco, Durga Puja means where the Bengali Doctors gather and talk about money money and money.
They suffer from inferiority complex for being brown skinned and Hindu.
November 9th, 2007 at 12:52 pm
Let me start by telling all of u that I am human being first of all.
Then I am Indian or Hindu or whatever u say.
I dont understand your comments about Hinduism.
It seems that there are geogrphical hindus like British Hindus, Indian Hindus.
Does Hinduism teaches you to show your knowledge, ability in Hinduism.
As per me, all religion are same.
First of all we must be good human and we must respect other culture and other religion.
That is what Hinduism, says.
We should not ever say, Hinduism is better than Muslim and Christian.
We must give more respect to other religion.
But here, we are fighting ourselves on Hinduism rather than implementing.
I am Gujarati from Mumbai(India).
But mind you, knowledge about hinuism is not sufficient to describe you as being Hindu.
Knowledge knows no boundry.
Some white skin or black skin may be knowing Hinduism better than us.
We are not here to fight that who knows Hinduism.
If u try to compare , it shows lack of hinuism.
If i am wrong somewhere, pl reply me.
I would be accepting anybody’s point of view from any religion.
November 9th, 2007 at 1:35 pm
re: Gujarti Hindus consider themselves as British, they do not want to talk to the Natives.
No offence A.Moron but I’m one of the Gujrati Hindus who considers myself British instead of Indian. Thats because I’ve found that despite having lived in a white so called racist area all my life, British people are much more accepting and tolerant to British Hindus then Indian Hindus.
Let me give you an example a few years ago I visited my relatives in Gujarat and from day one all I heard was how my country (Britain) plundered/looted their country (India) and how physically/mentaly superior Indians are to NRI’s just because according to them India is full of hardship while Britain isn’t. The second time I went back I took one of my white mates with me and guess what? They were practically queing to lick his ass and praising the west. There was absolutly none of the bravado they showed me.
Also I’ve found that the guys and girls from Mumbai are so westernised they make the coconuts in western countries look traditional. A lot of them seem to think being modern means looking down on their own culture/religion.
November 9th, 2007 at 4:02 pm
All we need to do is refrain from categorization as Indian Hindu or British Hindu or Indonesian Hindu. Entire Hindu community is one . It is also remarkable that every Hindu is loyal to the country where he takes citizenship. This quality in Hindus makes them form a stable society. Look what is happening in Pakistan , Bangladesh, and Afganistan where the Hindu population reduced over the years. In any country the atmosphere is stable if the Hindu population is significant. That is because the Hindus are people who live a balanced life. they care for plants . animals and poor. Let all Hindus make effort to learn their Dharma and let there be spiritual training to Hindu students from young age .
November 9th, 2007 at 9:25 pm
Namaste,
1. The article by Shri Rudra Chatterjee is in bad taste, at least to me. It is in bad taste, not only because it tried to segregate the Hindu samaj/society into compartments (A Hindus, B Hindus, C Hindus etc), but it also denigrates the very basis of Sanatan Dharma.
2. Sanatan Dharma (or Hindu Dharma) is Eternal, Universal. It is all-inclusive, devoid of any dogmas and secterianism (unlike Abrahamic religions). As Swami Vivekanada said, both theists and atheists have place in Hindu Dharma. A Hindu remain a Hindu, whether belive in Ishwar/God or not. There are no true Hindus or false Hindus.
3. When something (here Sanatan Dharma) is Eternal, Universal, it can’t be delimited by imaginary geographic boundaries or by any other means. A shallow mental construction born out of egos and anger gave rise to such feelings of compartments.
4. As Atharva Veda boldly declared: A fallen Hindu must be liberated by the fellow Hindus. This is the duty of every Hindus. A fallen person needs our support, and not boycott.
5. A Hindu is a Hindu, no matter where she/he lives, irrespective of nationality, color, appearance, race, gender and so on. Feeling of superiority or inferiority has nothing to do with the Sanatan Dharma, it is the ego in us. Moreover, feeling of superiority and inferiority are inherent in all human beings (with three gunas). It is there among the Hindus inside Bharat, some would say I am Brahmin, etc showing his/her supremacy over the others. This is the result of ignorance (avidya). Over ninety nine percent so-called Brahmins even don’t know the meaning of the word Brahmin. They even don’t know that no Vedic sastras (Veda, Upanisad, Bhagavad Gita) prescribed by-birth varna system.
6. Love, compassion and service wins others heart, hatred born out of egos and anger consumes the self.
7. Good and bad are in every society. But that should not be an excuse for us to be bad. It is our duty as per the Dharma to be good and help others to be good. Hindus need to develop self-respect and self-confidence. Slavic mentality born-out of a thousand years of slavery (foreign rule) need to be cured by practising Dharma, the true Dharma and age-old Bharatiya samskriti.
8. The day every Hindu studies and practice even a bit of Bhagavad Gita, I am confident, we will develop a strong self-confidence and self-respect. This is the pre-requisite for creating an egalitarian Hindu samaj.
9. On this auspicious day of Deepawali, let we all pray to Ishwara/God to take us to the path of light from darkness of ignorance. Divine in us will guide us.
Jaya Sanatan Dharma!
November 11th, 2007 at 1:45 pm
I personally feel the article is just an experience of one Hindu and is well written because it sets out what most of us experience. It is not to segregate the Hindus but to make both of them realise the folly of their arrogance.
A Moron has made good arguments as he sees them and Prahalad has made his point as he has experienced. Both are right.
With this realisation in mind let both sides move forward.
BOLLYWOOD has some blame for the way we Western Hindus are perceived by Indian Hindus. The article reminded me of the film Kuch Kuch Hota Hai where a western Rani Mukherjee was tested for her HINDUNESS BEFORE being accepted by the INDIANS!!
Is this what we British Hindus have to prove all the time when we come to India?
The film PAREDS and many others like it portray similar picture that western Hindus are dumb (in terms of Hindu culture), party goers, womaniser, good for nothing. Its very insulting and brainwashes the Indian population.
Is it the perception of Indian Hindus?
Sometimes there are bigger issues brought forward in these pictures but they are not balanced.
Even if some of us don’t know our culture (as some of us don’t), then what point does it prove? Some of us have lost touch with our culture but that does not make us any less a Hindu! A Hindu is one who worships a God. Why should knowledge all the grand rituals and knowledge of the Vedas is the only qualification to being a Hindu?
There are much learning points that can come from this article.
November 14th, 2007 at 10:44 pm
I agree with the experience of otherness that is referred to in the article and above. But I’ve found that otherness to be beneficial to me as I am more easy in moving between modes of cultural thought - it allows me to see from multiple perspectives at the same time.
The problem here is arrogance - some Hindus, indeed all persons, want to believe what they believe to be true. For someone to challenge that is dangerous to the ego-identity. Thus a person who represents a different viewpoint becomes a challenge to the the ego with its own viewpoint. Further, if the ego is wrong, it must then let that part of its identity go. Thus any new information is a challenge - a frightening experience to some people.
But I think this is the point of working on giving up ego - giving up ownership of truth. Its a hard road for me to walk.
hariaum
November 15th, 2007 at 1:13 pm
“The film PAREDS and many others like it portray similar picture that western Hindus are dumb (in terms of Hindu culture), party goers, womaniser, good for nothing. Its very insulting and brainwashes the Indian population.”
That is funny because nowadays there is a huge population of “kool yaars” in India who ape everything West from clothes to accents and the idiots want to portray us as degenerates while millions of these “kool yaar” morons roam the streets of every big city in Bharat.
November 16th, 2007 at 9:38 pm
Kadimipuili
so true yaar!
I havent watched any of these new trash and havent been to India for some years.
Just watching the trailers does my head in. Apologies to those who love Bollywood.
What turned me off was the fact that they are forever trying to please every relgion on the planet accept Hindus.
November 17th, 2007 at 8:27 pm
Neither have I but then against 90% of the movies are trash anyway so u r saving ur own time.
And I fail to see why some people want to call it the “Hindi industry” because from what I can see 90% of the movies never step outside Mumbai and Urdu + English barring some rare ones like Omkara.
The idiots want to portray us as lacking culture when in reality all big cities in Bharat are full of moronic kool yaars, today if you go to any city most of the college going lot won’t know 1 to 100 in their own languages but know it in English, thats the level of culture being maintained by them, so lets have no illusions about these holier than thou pricks you might often encounter because for most of them in Bharat Dharma is all about going to mandir the day before exam and praying for miracles to happen.
November 19th, 2007 at 5:40 pm
Hi, I’m sort of new to this discussion, and from what i have been reading, i first of all have to say
A.Moron, i seem to understand where youre coming from. I have too SEEN it, but never expiranced it. I don’t know about other Hindu youths, but when a Hindu walks in, I’m their friend. If a Hindu walked into my class room, whom i never met before, and people start picking on them, or isolating them, Its not what I will accept. I know this seems very racist, but before anyone i care for my own. My case is differnt, I see it from your oppositions side. I must say however, that I don’t understand WHY they won’t talk to you, unless they think they are somewhat better, and that you are somehow a ‘freshie’ or ’stright back from home’. I use these terms too, i wont lie, but i use it in a way that im not offending one. I talk of myself. I was born on the white man’s land, but my heart soul and mind is still India’s.
Prahald YOUR A MORON! but hear me out WHY. Some of us, British born Hindu’s would do anything to be born in India. I would, and your sitting there telling me that just because they TREAT you better if your a British Born that you LIE about your nationality? Now tell me, put it this way, there’s a youth, and i mean youth, still in High School, out there who would DO ANYTHING to be Indian born Hindu living in Britain. But she can’t cause she knows she aint, and there is a Indian born Hindu, calling themselves a British born, because he wants to be treated BETTER? What are you? you definately can’t be Hindu if you aint proud of your country and background! and BOY WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE TO SAY WE ARE COCANUTS IN BRITAIN WHEN WE CAN HOLD OUR CULTURE BETTER THAN YOU LOT BACK HOME?
Spirit! I agree with you soo much! I mean, from a high overall view of what Indian born Hindu’s think of us, I believe that they think we somewhat have NO knowledge of our religeon. Let me tell you one thing, Rani Mukerjee accepted the challenge, and won, but i wouldn’t. I know the hanuman chalisa, aarti, I know what navratri is, and why we celebrate Diwali. I know about makar sankantri, and janmasti, i know about raksha bhandhan, but they have no right to shun us because they THINK we don’t know jack about our religeon.
Navin i agree, It is arrogance. As a young Hindu youth, i can say for sure, That my Indian bon friends somewhat think they are more superior to me because they were BORN on India’s land. It ain’t about where they are born, It’s about whats in your Heart!.
And as for my views, I think this is ALL WAYY too far fetched. You gotta think close, and IN! You have got to see ALL Hindu’s as one. You aint no superior if you were born on India’s land, and you aint no minor if you wernt. Infact you INDIAN BORN HINDUS NEED TO BACK OFF! you aint the only ones who know ANYTHING! We aint no dumb people as you all like to portray us as! We know a lot more about respecting our own people than you do. Before you point fingers at us and call us cocanuts, look at yourself. If you are th ultimately perfect Hindu, I’ll back off. OTHERWISE… look at yourself, look at the position you put you own people in. The “lower caste” Hindu’s all converted to Bhuddism, all the “upper caste” think they some King or Queen… all you “middle caste” need to MAN UP and change whats going about your home.
What happens back there affects ALL off us, not just you!
November 20th, 2007 at 3:01 am
Sejal Vara I don’t know what you read but I’m not Indian. My grandparents settled in Britain and I’m born and bred in London so that makes me British of Indian origin.
Frankly the only reason I’ve been interested in India was because my granparents came from there so I wanted to see where they came from and also because historical places mentioned in Ramayan/Mahabharat are there which I wanted to see. If you want to be born there then good luck to you. I wouldn’t.
By the way being Hindu doesn’t mean being Indian. For example I would class some of the ISCKON devotees as being more Hindu then the wanabees in Indian cities who ape everything from the west. And who would rather protest about shilpa shetty instead of doing something about their heritage being abused/destroyed.
November 24th, 2007 at 9:05 am
This is a serious problem of attitude which needs to be resolved. There are Hindus who have settled abroad after the abolition of slavery era in countries like Mauritius, Fiji, Trinidad, Guyana and others who have maintained their culture and identity despite oppression unimaginable in present days. How are they loooked at or considered despite being Hindus who have had advantage and privilege of evolving in a western or semi-western society for over 150 years. Guess the answer?
November 26th, 2007 at 6:25 pm
An interesting discussion. I do recall that during my student days, the Indian Hindu students decided to set up a separate society as they were so averse to associating with the Hindu Society. Personally, I got on well with them and despite being a little saddened by what was going on, nevertheless helped them to set up, organise and establish their new society. During the couple of years of my association with the Indian Hindu students, I came to realise a number of things:
1. They do very much look down on British Hindus, for a whole host of reasons.
2. They have very little interest in interacting with either British Hindus or the larger local British community.
3. They are very friendly and supportive once you are in their group, but their innate arrogance makes it very difficult for British Hindus to get into that circle.
4. They are not merely ignorant of, but also completely uninterested in, issues surrounding Hinduism and Hindus in Britain, despite the fact that those issues affect them equally as long as they remain in this country.
I know there is a lot of finger pointing going on in this comment, for which I apologise, but I felt it appropriate to share the lessons from my own personal experience.
November 28th, 2007 at 10:25 am
Can someone help, my son is at Portsmouth Uni, joined the Hindu Society, their web page was not updated until recently, he paid ÂŁ5.00 but received no emails or speacial events notice for Navrati or the New Year, he has complained and wants his money back, they are being unhelpful and un coperative, saying they had emailed him even though he has received nothing. They are being awkward and he needs further advise now, pls help. He been to the society Leader, Students Union, no joy. It’s the principle of it than the money.
November 30th, 2007 at 2:03 pm
Suresh ji, I am about to return to Portsmouth for a while and have a couple of contacts in the Hindu Society there. What’s your son’s name? I can certainly have a chat with them, though obviously I can’t promise anything.
November 30th, 2007 at 6:06 pm
This is a extreamly stright forward issue, that needs looking and acting on. It’s up to us, as in British Hindu’s to prove our worth to the Indian Hindu’s. WE know they are in no way better than us. However, we should stoop to their level and try testing their intelligence in religeon. We all know our religeon, however some are more religeous than others. I am really religeous, that don’t make me better than someone who aint.
We need to work on this together, by first of all, proving to them that we know our religeon, then by showing them that they aren’t better than us by being born on India’s land. Then we need to teach them what UNITED HINDUS mean… put your hand in if you agree!
To India… To our home…our past, present and future (India)
December 3rd, 2007 at 9:20 pm
Sejal makes some interesting points above, though having spent so much time as a student with overseas Indian students, I am somewhat sceptical about the likelihood of the approach actually working particularly well, or even at all. Personally, I was considered by the Indian students I associated with as very much an exception, and oddly enough, they considered it a compliment when they described me as more Indian than British (see below); despite the fact that they could plainly see me, British born and bred, being every bit ‘as Hindu’ as them (whatever that may mean), they still remained adamant that British born and raised Hindus have lost their culture.
Ironically, I was just sat at dinner this evening and an Omani happened to sit next to me; the topic of my Indian origin came up and he said that what he really liked about the Indians who have moved to and settled in Britain and other countries is that they have preserved their identity, culture and tradition so well. Strange that so many Indians do not see this; of course, it is certainly true to say that British Hinduism is quite different from Indian Hinduism.
On this last point, I personally would take issue with Sejal’s final sentence. Whilst I am very proud of my Hindu identity, and I feel a deep connection with India as the land of my roots, I personally do not consider myself Indian - India is a geopolitical entity, to which I belong neither geographically nor politically. Besides this, having been raised in Britain, my worldview and outlook on life is very British - it is certainly not the same as Indians’. I consider myself a British Hindu, albeit of Indian origin. Of course, this is a personal matter for individuals to consider for themselves; this is merely my personal view.
Incidentally, I recall a couple of years ago, at an RSS International training camp in Mumbai, the RSS Sarsanghchalak, K S Sudarshan saying in his speech at the concluding ceremony that the need of the hour for Hinduism is another Vivekanand; however, he was quite clear that he believed that whilst Vivekanand travelled from India to the west, the next Vivekanand will come from the west, since that is where Hindu pride is greatest.
December 4th, 2007 at 11:03 am
Satya,
My son is call Krishan Mistry, he is in 1st year Civil Engineering. He can be contacted at krish.mistry@gmail.com
Many Thanks
December 8th, 2007 at 1:12 pm
Satya. please can you send me your email address so we can discuss this issue. i appreciate your help.
December 14th, 2007 at 5:36 pm
Satya, yo to quote some intresting remarks. I too am like you. I belong here by birth, by bringing up, by everything, except, being away from India, i sometimes wish i had the expirance of being in India. I have this level of protectiveness over India itself. I can’t hear anything against it. If anyone said anything (even if it was true) i would immediatly jump up and start shouting anf things like that. Its just me naturally. I just sometimes crave to actually live in India, and see what it is like. I won’t argue much with anyone here, because its kind of obvious that im some teenage youth. I doubt i have more expirance than anyone here. But from a kid’s point of view, India is everything for me, (religeon ect) but London is everything for me aswel (home, friends, family, education, bringing up).
I strive to keep my religeon alive in the heart of london, and i think the only way we can do it is by making the Indian Hindu’s “accept” or “admit” we British Hindu’s aren’t less Hindu than them for being born and brought up “pardesh” (away from India). Them rejecting this makes me think they don’t accept their own “family” and it really can hurt us at times.
I don’t want to be put to the test on how Hindu i am. I know i am faithful, but not pure. I am Hindu by birth, by nature and beliefs, up bringing ect. But there are some aspects I admit not to follow i.e, i eat meat, but then again i put my restrictions to it. I dont eat beef. To be honest i haven’t seen beef, raw or coodked in my life, and i don;t intend on seeing it.
December 16th, 2007 at 11:42 am
“Can someone help, my son is at Portsmouth Uni, joined the Hindu Society, their web page was not updated until recently, he paid ÂŁ5.00 but received no emails or speacial events notice for Navrati or the New Year, he has complained and wants his money back, they are being unhelpful and un coperative, saying they had emailed him even though he has received nothing. They are being awkward and he needs further advise now, pls help. He been to the society Leader, Students Union, no joy. It’s the principle of it than the money”
Sad state of affairs… maybe the editors of this wonderful site should look at the problems with so called Hindu Student Societies - could be quite interesting reading to see if these groups have hindu’s best wishes at heart or are they just here to make money…
as for the British Hindu V Indian Hindu’s - who care’s what the Indian Hindu’s think… Hinduism is not monopolised by some muppet from Mumbai or some Nerd from New Delhi -
We all know the salvation of Hinduism is going to come from the West and head back into “the motherland” like a celestial tsunami - sweeping all before it and washing the “bad karma” away of those still standing….
all we need now is the new Vivekanda to emerge
Neo-Hinduism anyone? the Creation of a New Ayodhya anyone?
December 20th, 2007 at 5:21 pm
“YOU know, I may have to be born again, you see, I have fallen in love with mankind.” Swami Vivekananda.
Those who inculcate/emulate Swami Vivekanda are Vivekananda themselves. There are thousands of Vivekandas among us today, they may not wear saffron robs or became sanyasis. They are all trained with Swamijis adarsha/ideals and visions. What lacking is the action of Swamiji. We need to act. As Vivekananda said, even a small action is superior than thousand endless words.
Dharma rakshati rakshitah (Dharma protects those, who protects dharma).
Bharat
December 26th, 2007 at 11:13 am
After seeing the replies I am sorry to say that you people could not appreciate the frustrations Indian Hindu Students feel when they go to any British university and come across the British Hindus.
It is not true, as Bombay Films may tell you, that we Indian Hindus feel superior. It is exactly the opposite of course.( Bombay films are unrealistic as they speak Urdu and most actors & actresses are Muslims dressed up like skin-heads).
(1) We Indian Hindus cannot speak English properly as we have very strong accents and our English of course, as we study English as a foreign language, is highly incorrect when it comes to daily conversation ( as in India we learn only academic English to read books on academic subjects, and as a result we do not learn conversational English at all in India).
(2) As far as our knowledge of Hindu religion, we know nothing at all. I can say that from my own experience. When I went to Britain I knew nothing about Hinduism except for the children’s story books( Amar Chitra Katha comics). After being confronted by the members of the Christian Society or Islamic Society I had to learn about Hinduism when I was in Britain, for the first time in my life.
(3) We Indian Hindu students have to depend on our scholarship, so it is a big decision for us whether to drink tea or coffee or whether to take the bus or to walk, to save a few pence. British Hindus have motor bikes or even cars and no shortages of money.
Thus, refusal of the British Hindus to accept us, Indian Hindus, on equal terms, not our superiority complex, is the cause of the rift between the Indian Hindus and the British Hindus.
Also, I have experienced first time in my life that as the British Hindus face racism daily they reflect that on Indian Hindus and to each other. That is the reason they are divided along regional lines: Gujarati Hindus, Punjabi Hindus, Kashmiri Hindus, Bengali Hindus, Tamil Hindus, Telegu Hindus and the rest. I had observed that hostility among different types of British Hindus is very strong and very racial.
Among the Indian Hindu students in Britain also there are divisions: Bombay Hindus, Delhi Hindus and the Rest. However that divisions depends on economic class, not anything else as the Bombay Hindus and Dehli Hindus are much much richer than the rest and as a result the richer students do not want to communicate to the poorer students.
However, the British Hindus are divided by race, as they learn to be racist by the racist British. This is the sad fact you British Hindus cannot ignore.
December 28th, 2007 at 11:06 pm
A.Moron, you have us mistaken. Don’t think that we don’t accept Indian Hindu’s, but the minority of them for some reason have the ‘louder voice’ and are more seen. The minority that know every quote from the Bhagvad Gita ect, think they are somewhat better than us. It’s annoying for us, but if we see that indian Hindu’s are in trouble, who the hell are we to sit on the side eh? We help eachother… I help indian Hindu’s. My dad did one of the greatest things recently.
A guy works at his shop and was here in London to pay of his dad’s debt from India. We helped him through the struggle, and I meet him oftan (i hang around the shop a lot) and he’s a bit of a brother for me. He wants an extention on his visa to stay here. He likes it here, but he needed a sponserer. Who the hell were we to say no? dad said yes as soon as the matter arised. (Im telling you this so you have an idea of what i mean by help eachother)
If we could do that, more British Hindus must be helping a lot of Indian Hindus. Yeah A.Moron, we’re racist, and you need to learn it too. To surivive in school here, we got to learn how to react to racism. I have a Indian Hindu friend, who was naieve and got caught up in a ‘racism row’ with white people. We stuck together and fought it out being racist back though.
We shouldnt be racist because we WANT to be, we should only be racist when we are FORCED to be. Brother, dont think your on your own in this country, cause Indian Hindu’s like you got ALL the British Hindu’s behind them. You got the truthfulness in you, it won’t go to waste, trust me.
December 29th, 2007 at 8:35 pm
A Moron - listen brother - you must lighten up and maybe then your British Hindu Brothers and sisters might be able to accept you and greet you warmly.
As for Sejals comment on “we should only be racist when we are FROCED to be” - sorry but no one can make you think or do anything that you don’t want. Racism is endemic in this country but I will not be forced into being a racist.
and A Moron - my name NRI Var Steward was actually given to me by a bunch of self righteous Indian Hindu Students in London - we had a “spirited debate” about Hinduism and the lack of - ahem - balls that Indian Hindu students have in defending thier archeological cities and one of them turned round and call me an NRI Bastard.
So I told them all to “f..k off back to home” - (oops Sejal u might have been right - damn maybe I was racist)
December 30th, 2007 at 5:40 pm
NRI Bar Stward, that was exactly what i meant! see, they pushed you to it. It’s fair to say that we’re only racist BACK and not racist in general. Well, i hope A Moron reads this, because he needs to know that we aint like that, it’s just the way people put it. Besides, even if they was like that, we realy wouldnt sell them down the river, because they attain a high level of respect from us just being a Hindu…
A Moron, let us know when you read this.