Durga Puja celebrations is East London attacked
For many years, the Sanaton Association (a group that promotes Bengali and Hindu culture in East London) has organized Durga Pujas at the Toynbee Hall in Aldgate.
Durga Puja is the name for Navratri in the East of India, particularly in Bengal and neighbouring states.
Unfortunately this year the peaceful celebrations were disrupted twice, by Muslim youths, who attacked an elderly devotee on one occasion and then tried to smash the Murti of Mother Durga as it was being led out at the end of the festival. The elderly people present there were frightened and some of the children were in tears as they witnessed this harassment, whilst the younger worshippers confronted the attackers and a fight broke out between them and the attackers which only dissipated when the police arrived.
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November 9th, 2007 at 9:27 am
Let the Muslim Begladeshis not forget that it was India (Predominantly Hindu) that liberated them from the Paki yoke!Instead they continue to harass,humilate and exterminate their fellow Hindu brethren.
There is only one salution to this: India must take Bangladesh back rename it East Bengal so that everyone can once again feel human again (living as Indian off course).
Jai Hind!!!
November 10th, 2007 at 1:55 am
Glad to hear some Hindu youths got some balls and took a stand instead of shying out of confrontation as one usually hears. The fact is that Hindus are seen as weak and therefore an easy target. If Hindu youth start training and gain some pride and knowledge of their religion, they will see that these attacks will cease to take place. Self-defence is vital. Being a proud Hindu is not about hating Muslims, Bangladeshis or anyone else, it is about being proud of Sanatan Dharma and being willing to defend it from agressors like those shown in this article. So glad to hear that some youth defended the community and they should be applauded.
November 10th, 2007 at 3:06 pm
I cant say im surprised at this article, this type of thing happens in places like bradford etc. But more a more people are taking a stand even if it means we have to pick up swords and take it to them!
After all if any worship was being attacked from any religion, you would still try to take a stand
November 11th, 2007 at 1:32 pm
Glad to hear Hindu youth faught back…!…on these parades, lathis/sticks should always be taken along just incase. In the UK, attacks like this againts Hindus (and even Sikhs) do occur…the sikhs are prepared as they naturally have weopans are part of their parades…wheras we Hindus dont..BUT…this is DURGA puja….trishuls, swords should be accompanying Durga in the procession and as such, these could be used in the event of a disturbance. Some of you may think this is extreme, but I would say you are naive. Ive been to Hindu parties/religious events where Muslim youth have come with baseball bats, knives, machetes and once, a samurai sword. The local Muslim drug dealers in my area who used to harrass Hindus at my mandir used to carry guns too and they would aim fireworks at devotees…women and children included.
A Sikh parade in my area was also attacked..the Muslims came down down with vicious dogs and harrassed the sikh parade..a fight broke out and the muslims were driven away. The next day, as revenge, the muslims came out in force in our shopping town and started to man handle all the old sikh men that sit on the towns benches during the day time…they were hitting and ripping the turbans off their heads.
So please, dont read what I wrote and think its extreme. Desperate times calls for desperate measures, and as a LAST resort, these things (sticks, swords) might be needed to protect our fellow Hindus…and also, it can act as a show of strength……….if the Muslims see a parade with strong Hindu youth walking proudly and defiantly with weapons, they are much less likely to attack….our dharma has a military arm to it…we all know this…THIS is something we should show and display more of.
November 11th, 2007 at 1:35 pm
The maher community in the UK, to this day, still practise sword fighting/wielding….ive seen some pretty adept exponents of what i presume is a form of shaster vidya. These people should teach Hindus how to yield lathis and swords and we should display these skills at every opportunity. The sikhs never fail to have a gatka practitioner strut his or her stuff on stage at melas etc etc….we Hindus should show our prowess too. Surely then we would start to shake this image that we have of being ABSOLUTE WEAKLINGS
November 11th, 2007 at 3:11 pm
Jai Shree krishna!!
Good to see that the Hindus involved stood and fought, let this “weakling” mentality wipe away from our minds and the minds of our enemies. Hindu Hindu ek rahe!!
November 11th, 2007 at 5:43 pm
I am shocked to hear what is exprienced by the people. I agree with Steve that it was Indian who fought for their independence in 1970. I remember fund raising for the Bangladesh for ‘Mukti Bahani’ in Punjab. As Gen. Subegh Singh took over the EastPakistan from the Pakistanis and thousands POWs.
These people need to teach some manners and history in their English schools.
November 11th, 2007 at 8:08 pm
Sir, We are living in an organised society where police has the duty to protect our lives and property. So we should demand to be protected and one way of doing it is to imform the police before hand avout the function to be held.
I agree with the comments that it is a popular belief that Hindus are wimps and can be frightened by threats of violence. We should dispel that belief if we are attacked and the police does not help. Otherwise it is best to let the law take its course. Devinder Thakur
November 11th, 2007 at 11:31 pm
devinder thakur…
i very much agree with what you say…we should abide by the law…thats what after all separates us from the muslims…but JUST INCASE…we should always be prepared for any eventuality!
November 12th, 2007 at 7:44 am
Hindu Voice please dont use headlines like
“This is Britain, NOT Bangladesh”.
I understand what you write in this headline completely after reading the article, but even in Bangladesh they should not be attacking Hindus. We must not make it acceptable for them to attack us in Bangladesh as well.
I was suprised to read this article as it had not made any headlines in the Asian papers or British Press.
Is anyone counting these racist abuse by Muslims on Hindus & Sikhs?
How is it that these problems are only listed in forums but otherwise remain hidden from the wider community? (Navratri incidents, Parade incidetns metioned above, Durga Pooja, someone mentioned its regular news in places like Bradford etc etc).
Again this is a sign of weakness. Get the police involved and the media involved.
The world should know what these thugs are about!
November 12th, 2007 at 8:15 am
These barbaric dessert thugs will never stop following us wherever we go in this world. They will follow us, look for us, and stomp us like a piece of trash as how they have done to our brothers and sisters in Kashmir, Pakistan, and Bangladesh. There nature is to vanish all the impure people to every corner of this world. And those impure people means us.
November 12th, 2007 at 10:31 am
Sir, The behaviour of “A” muslim comes directly from his so called holy book “k o r a n”. No surprise at all this kind of hate that islam generates not only effects Hindus , but will effect the host religion , (Christianity in the case of England).
Muslims have their religious duty to be hostile to all nonbelieving kaffirs, so what ever they do in the name of islam is ligit and even the most moderate of moderate islam followers do not stop them from doing such evil (not evil according to islam ). This kind of anmial behaviour ( not be disrespectful to the animal world) by followers of islam (mainly from pakistan and bangladeshi trash) has been a routine at the Navratri Garba Festivals organised by Gujarati communities from the early seventies from the last century, although most communities have learned to have good sicuruty on the event days .
The Hindu youth of today are capable of standing face to face against these islamic trash, but violence is not the way coz we are a law abiding citizens of this country and let the law agencies handle situstions like these. It would be very much in the interest of this nation that the police force take appropriate steps to curb this islamic menace before it becomes a national problem ( I am sure the people of this country know how distasteful these islamists are and can be ).
Hinduism has lived till today and go on for ever more no matter what .
November 12th, 2007 at 10:37 am
I have a contact a Journalist/Political Researcher who is doing a research project on the experiences of Indians Hindu/Sikh/others in the UK of islamic extremism.
They need to talk to people who would be willing to talk about the following:
Violence/intimidation at school/college/university or work.
Conversion of girls to islam
Kashmir- especially the views of the Conservative Parveen Warsi who called Pak backed terrorists “Freedom Fighters
Their views of the major parties Labour/Conservatives towards islam/Indian
Basically this project wants to talk to people. Confidentiallity would be guaranteed, no names would be mentioned, unless specifically agreed.
We need to make contact with Kashmiris in the UK.
This project is for the UK only.
Any one able to help ??????
e mail me:
heathen_henry@hotmail.co.uk
November 12th, 2007 at 7:41 pm
In my view if more home sofa-loving elders and club & pub loving younsters join in religious celebrations then that will give the community safety in numbers feeling and in turn will deter the other thugs to attack such ceremonies.
Prem
November 13th, 2007 at 10:46 am
Shocking.
Getting back to the actual event, I sincerely hope the organisers will
a. NOT be put off from holding it again
b. Use their influence on the bangla community to severly condemn the muslim youth responsible
c. DEMAND for police protection of the hindu festival goers next time and kick up a fuss if this is not granted.
We have spare Policeman to guard paedophiles, why not organised hindu parades/ public festivals.
November 14th, 2007 at 1:57 am
re: In my view if more home sofa-loving elders and club & pub loving younsters join in religious celebrations then that will give the community safety in numbers feeling and in turn will deter the other thugs to attack such ceremonies.
I agree most of the people at religious celebrations seem to be old women and children. If more younger men and women joined in then there would be safety in numbers
November 20th, 2007 at 8:25 pm
The UK government needs to do more. If you ask me its the softy softy approach of the Governement that lets the Muslims get away with doing what they do. Muslims need to learn that this is a free democratic country and not some psycho Islamic state, if they dont like it here then they know where pakistan and the middle east is!!
The Hindu forum of Britain need to take a stance and make the police and local councils know that this is not acceptable. Finally we need to start working more closely and learning from our brothers and sisters in the Jewish community. The jews in the uk have been putting up with attacks from Neo-Nazis and Muslims for many years, with their places of worship and graveyards constantly being targeted. Unlike us Hindus the Jews have done more to mobalise and unite their community to protect themselves from such crime. From working and having close personal ties with many Jewish people, i can tell you that they are more than willing to work and advise our community as we both share many common values and issues, such as pride in our faith as well as contribution to the UK and well as having issues with Muslims.
November 24th, 2007 at 9:44 am
Prior to any events of this kind it is always wise to send a note to the local police station informing the police of what had happened in the past with a polite request for help to avoid a similar situation. Try it and see the result.
November 26th, 2007 at 5:00 pm
Why is anyone surprised at this?
This is the standard response of islam to any who are ‘other’, assault and destruction; all the time bleating about how it is them who are ‘oppressed’.
Might I suggest you go to the site www.sioeengland.blogspot.com, where you will find like minded people; SIOE stands for ‘Stop the Islamisation of Europe and is dedicated to stopping the creeping sharia in our society and the continuous pandering to the spoilt brats of islam.
Hindus are more than welcome; believe me, anyone with the slightest knowledge of history knows how Hindus have suffered from the depradations of islam.
November 30th, 2007 at 7:22 am
why don’t you guys stop talking smack about islam and say it to our faces.
December 4th, 2007 at 10:04 am
“why don’t you guys stop talking smack about islam and say it to our faces.”
Sure thing loser, I’m in Hounslow, what rock can I find you under?
December 4th, 2007 at 5:40 pm
Well If Rob is taking up the cause
Count me In.
I am in Wales but will be there once C Turk (traitor to his heritage) has accepted the generous offer.
Veda Shakti!
December 4th, 2007 at 6:06 pm
What I would like to know is where were the Muslim religious leaders during all this? Did they speak out. They’re certainly vocal when someone treads on their sensitivities. Too bad, unfortunately, except for the Sufis (who generally respect all faiths, and are persecuted by Islamists for it, including our Saudi “allies” in the “war on terror”), rarely do we hear the mullahs and maulvis denounce such hate crimes…
December 6th, 2007 at 7:37 pm
Muslims see non muslims as nationalists imperialists without looking their own face in the mirror..
December 17th, 2007 at 10:04 am
The British authorities don’t have a clue how to tackle the fanaticism that exists among Muslims. Instead, they appease them just like the Congress Part has done in India. The Bangladeshi Muslims are ungrateful wasters. They convenienlt forget that Hindus and Sikhs liberated them from brutal Pakistan. Commander of the Eastern Forces - Lt Gen. Jagjit Singh Aurora - I say no more.
December 18th, 2007 at 9:29 pm
Muslims are muslims friend when mongols ruled arabia the great Khan used Ironfist to keep them under controll…Sadly muslims came to India and Buddhism was wiped out along with most of Hinduism who forcefully were converted to islam..Many mongols betrayed the great Khan and converted to islam…Reason why mongol controll in middle east failed..But genghis khan is the only person in history who treated muslims in their own way…Khan was the only who spreaded fear in the persians hearts…Muslims can easy breed in democracy they use your own freedom ideology against all non-muslims..
December 19th, 2007 at 5:53 pm
The more I have learned of the mongolian empire the more impressed I am of their history. Yes they were conquerers and materialistic - the kings any way. But they also showed tolerance to difference and education. Here was a libertarian group that really influenced the world but has been lost to history (first by muslims, then the soviets, now the chinese, and soon by christians).
hariaum
December 21st, 2007 at 4:15 pm
Mongols knew how to deal with muslims because to deal with another person you have to know him from his blood..What he thinks what he know about you and etc..Mongols easyly showed weakness towards muslims so muslims could be over-confident then who was the strongest even muslims admit the great Khan..
Muslims know how British people thinks what they fear and their weakness along with Other non-muslims as well…That is why muslims can easy yell in Britain and europe because they know its a democracy..While in their own countries non-muslims gets punished for doing anything..
A ordinary British person will not risk his life while muslims will fast regroup if something happens toward their community…
March 17th, 2008 at 2:19 pm
As an English infidel blogger we stand with Hindus and Sikhs in the fight against Islamists. It would be good to hear more in comments on our websites. As you say this was not in the media, we would only know about what happens because of blogs like this. I will add the hinduvoice to my blogroll
April 8th, 2008 at 2:04 am
Standing up for your religion comes easily if you are proud to be what you are.
April 11th, 2008 at 6:37 pm
There is a large Hindu Student Population in London, and unlike some of the Desi youth here, they are immensely proud of their culture and country. It shouldnt be hard to mobilise them to provide security in numbers for future events. That is if the locals help with legal issues if fights break out
And to the crazy turk
Take a hike, dont hide behind a turk handle, we all know you are from Porkistan,next time we see you, we will shove your mouth up your arse
April 16th, 2008 at 2:21 pm
I trust your religioous celebrations are totally inclusive ?? you must reach out to Christians and adapt your festivals and customs so they are not offended as the Christians in this country have to change things to suit other religions.
April 17th, 2008 at 3:05 am
Mr. Lynch-
No Hindu festival offends anyone. If it does, it is that person’s personal problem and not the responsibility of the Hindu community to change. No aspect of our festivals and customs needs to be change unless it harms another person and this has yet to happen.
Hindus have no need to reach out to Christians. There is no enmity between us.
What things have Christians had to change?
April 17th, 2008 at 4:31 am
So here we have “Asians” being attacked by a gang of “Asians”.
Sad that the British press keep hiding behind the euphemisms.
I’m a German. We have these problems there as well.
same “religion” is the source of all the violence in Germany as well.
And everywhere else in the world.
I wish we all would get togtehr.
Once and for all!!
Reading your story has me very angry for many different reasons..
You should be free to clebrate your peaceful feasts..
And I do not mean the hereafter.
We are sick of this
We are NOT dsick of sensible people like Hindus and Buddhists and everyone who knows and wants to get along.
April 17th, 2008 at 5:32 am
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April 18th, 2008 at 2:43 am
allisNogod-
We strongly disagree and are angry at what happened. Anybody would be, but your comments could be construed by the press as being representative of Hindus in general and give this blog a bad name.
No offense to you, allisNOgod, but moderators, I would recommend removing these comments.
Its just a matter of keeping our slate clean. Hope you understand.
Tschus
Keshav
April 18th, 2008 at 10:01 pm
Point taken, Keshav.
July 19th, 2008 at 6:28 pm
There are a lot of us sharing the same views, but we need action now, not later. We need to train our youngsters to stand up to anyone in defending of our way of life. The problem is parents tell the kids about praying and peace, non violence etc. Times are different, the kids need to know who they are , where there roots are. And I dont mean geogarphically , but the fact who our ancestors were , their achievements, their battles, the genocide at the hands of invaders ,what is happening at present. Let them know the full history which was hidden from us by our own govts. Spirituality with dharma. We need to raise new generation of ksatriyas along with intelectuals. It is our dharma to guide the new generation . our way of life is under attack not only in the UK but in our own homeland. We are facing an up hill battle from the appeasers and the attackers. We are a peace loving race but unless we start taking precautions now, i fear it may be too late .