Fed-up of selfish self-serving Hindu groups
Just as all the rivers in the world eventually lead to the limitless ocean; similarly all the various Hindu groups and sects should aim to lead to some kind of realisation of the existence of this ocean. There are many such groups ranging from sectarian bodies promoting devotion to a specific deity, groups under guidance of a Guru, as well as Hindu social groups aiming to serve wider Hindu society. On the other hand…
July 9th, 2007 at 8:22 am
Nice article and agree with most of what you say. You say that all hindu groups should focus primarily on mainstream hinduism. You also mention the rishis of the past.
In the past Rishis and acaryas did not focus on mainstream hinduism as there was no such concept. Rishis and acaryas in the past did disagree and conflict with each others doctrines. Like madhavacarya, sankaracarya, ramunujacarya movements created by guru nanak vallabhacarya, etc etc. This conflict without violence was the intellectual tool and basis to refine vedic philosophy through debate and logic rather than some singular dogmatic concept as you find in other religions where disagreement gets violent.
Vedic dharma has always been about debate and free flow of ideas people take their intellectual postions through discussions. It doesnt matter if one group thinks it superior than the other, discuss and debate, this will create a strong foundation especially in the youth. If hindu youth are encouraged to learn find out discuss they will make hinduism stronger. If they are too scared and easily confused by different groups then you might as well join an abrahamic religion where everything is set out in stone.
The only thing vedic groups need to do is encourage their group memebers to question and think. I have no problem personally of any group thinking they have the right answers above others as long as they are willing to discuss it.
Our past was glorious because we had open minds not dogamtic beliefs in a mainstream it was intellectual survival of the fittest thus india has one of the most refined and diverse concepts. Hindus should not try and create some sort of artificial mainstream philosophically. (Although politically there is a need).
July 9th, 2007 at 2:25 pm
Even, I used to think the same way when I had little experience with Shakha. I wanted someone to take my hand and guide me. But later I realized that the “organisers” are merely there to facilitate a certain thought process. It is the individual who has to take the initiative to learn more. That is the reason why Sangh has Bhagava Dhavj (Saffron Flag) as Guru. Everybody else is just like you… ignorant, trying to learn! I am not sure if anyone can claim he/she has understood everything about Hinduism.
July 10th, 2007 at 7:37 am
Dear Ms. Ritu,
Please understand that a Shakha is a place for people to meet and to make a preliminary study of Hinduism. It is not a source for learning the philosophy of it. The Shakha assists you in coordinating your thoughts to bring you into focus of the reality of the vastness of Hinduism.
As you have rightly observrd the Rishis have differed in their thoughts but the common thought has been the vastness of acceptance that their is no set religion as Hinduism but a set way of life by which you can live a life without guilt, sorrow and regret, but a full life of wonder and health. The rishis have indeed indicated that life itself is a celeberation and not an end in itself.
The Shakha provides you a base for this development.
Regards.
V.C.Krishnan
July 10th, 2007 at 8:05 am
Rituji
I must congratulate you on your very honest and objective thoughts. You are absolutely right in that organisations become embroiled in their policies and views are enforced from top down - and to be honest, unless you are a Swami Vivekananda or similar, trying to explain the basics of our rich Hindu culture, heritage and history, you will struggle.
The difficulty lies in interpretation; thus the guidance of a guru ( which itself is another discussion! ) is necessary or reading and discussing with others is helpful.
We as youth tend to lay blame at the feet of the “seniors”; whilst I appreciate it can be frustrating, the youth are not ready and willing to learn and research themselves. This feeling of pride about being a Hindu lacks in most, and an organisation who can arouse that passion in young Hindus is vital - and there are many, including shakha. The difference is in inclusivity across all Hindus; most organisations are led by a certain sect or faith or guru. Whilst everyone is welcome, it still remains biased; shakha reveres all ancient gurus, faiths, great people, scriptures from our great Motherland.
There will always be members in an organisation who will have their own views and agendas; it is not the organisation to blame. These are the parts of the whole, not the whole. As our friends have metioned above, this is the greatness of Hinduism but can also be it’s achiles heel - the vastness and openess. Ekam Sat Viprah Bahuda Vadanti - we need to understand and then be able to translate that for our youth.
I agree with you that the groups should not be embroiled in anything other than creating an interest among the youth in their great culture and history.
July 10th, 2007 at 11:49 am
“Please understand that a Shakha is a place for people to meet and to make a preliminary study of Hinduism. ”
Not being funny but I have met even 40 plus year olds ‘kids’ from these shakas who seem to be still at preliminary stage of Hinduism.But if they’re going to shaka to play kids games because as children their parents wouldn’t then maybe its worth going to shaka.
“It is not a source for learning the philosophy of it.”
Ok so now I know whay I haven’t found hardly anyone from the RSS that can hold a proper Hindu debate.
“The Shakha assists you in coordinating your thoughts to bring you into focus of the reality of the vastness of Hinduism.”
Yeh but if the Shaka cordinators dont know anything about Hindu philosophy because like you said shaka is not about that but about the preliminary stage then how can they bring you to the vastness of Hinduism ?
It’s like telling someone to learn how to drive is to just get in a car and eventually you’ll find out how to drive yourself because all we can tell you is how to open the car door.Sorry that dont make any sense.Rita has made some good points which should be an eye opener to people who run these shakas.And maybe after playing ‘hopscotch’ or ‘It’ they can be shown Rita’s article.
July 11th, 2007 at 9:47 am
Its a very well written article and I think it raises an important point. I would like to add that its not only groups who are pushing their ‘Hinduism’ views onto people, but lone people themselves. Some people are unfortunetly ignorant so they believe that whatever they have been taught, whatever they believe Hinduism means to them is what Hinduism means. Every person reading this web mag knows how vast Hinduism is, and that no boundaries can possibly be placed. And then these people are educating people only their aspect of what this religion is about. I find that this is dangerous, not only to our youth, who are vulnerable, but to everyone who wants a deeper understanding as they are receiving a very narrow view.
July 11th, 2007 at 11:55 am
Dharmesh C - “We as youth tend to lay blame at the feet of the “seniors”; whilst I appreciate it can be frustrating, the youth are not ready and willing to learn and research themselves.”
Having been in contact and attended many of these shakhas and camps for several years myself, i find this statement to be very untrue. I myself and others have asked numerous questions regarding hinduism and hindu history to some of the teachers “elders” who take the bauddhik (intellectual) sessions, and found their answers to be utterly unrelated to our questions.
These sort of experiences hardly inspire the youth to research and look into hinduism.
July 12th, 2007 at 2:36 pm
A very good article. Why are the youth not ready and willing to learn and research? Ask yourself what is it that makes you a Hindu? what is it that Hinduism allows you that Abrahamic religions do not? Religious or cultural practices in Hinduism ,what does it give you? What can you contribute as a Hindu in the present time? Relevance of ancient Hindu thoughts and ways in today’s life? Go on youths in this age of globalization you can do it and promote Hinduism.
July 12th, 2007 at 9:11 pm
Yogesh Mistry
Is your post meant to have any relevance to the issues that this article has raised ?
July 12th, 2007 at 11:31 pm
excellent article brother.in my experience the perceived complexity of hindu philosophy leads many to lean more towards the ‘rituals’ side of the faith rather then the teachings. there should be more awareness - not only amongest hindus, but also wider british society in relation to what it means to be a hindu.
July 14th, 2007 at 12:17 am
Nice article. I would have loved to hear more specific examples, but I suppose subtle attitudes can be hard to pinpoint. For example, I remember one “senior” member of the Hindu community preaching that “Ekam Sat Viprah Bahuda Vadanti” only applies to Dharmic faiths. There was another occasion when Hindu youths were lectured by a national organisation on how any conversion away from Hinduism must necessarily be coerced. Also, some people seem to be obsessed with Hindu supremacy - something very different to having pride in one’s heritage.
Having said all this, many such people and the organisations to which they belong do a lot of good social and charitable work, which must be commended.
July 14th, 2007 at 12:28 am
The important question the article has raised is how should each group sees itself within the entire Hindu religion: in my view there is nothing wrong in regarding the group one belongs to as special, but this is not to assume that the other groups have nothing of importance to contribute. There is nothing wrong either in arguing for ones views if they happen to differ from other groups as long as the argument is aimed at getting to the truth without personal attachment. Indeed, this is what makes our religious differences non-violent and also add to our knowledge.
July 16th, 2007 at 9:52 am
The term “Hindu” has been subject to such a calculated bashing over many many years, that I also believe that some of these sects like to keep a distance from the term so that they don’t become tainted with the image that “Hindu” has acquired via the mass media, western academia etc..
Thats a shame.
July 16th, 2007 at 5:16 pm
For males it is called Shakha, for females it is Samiti, these are your opinions but you have to understand that Samiti may not have been your cup of tea but that doesnt go to say its is useless to everybody, the main thing is that it is the only active Hindu organisation in the way that it is found in virtually every large city in the UK, what else unites us the way shakha does??not much
July 16th, 2007 at 9:40 pm
Wel said to g for hez reply.Koenraad elst has taken a jab at rss 4 their anti-intellectualism.This is sad seeing dat rss i7 hindu dharmas most known voice.
July 16th, 2007 at 11:11 pm
“Samiti may not have been your cup of tea but that doesnt go to say its is useless to everybody”
I attended shakha (samiti) and yes it is not completely useless, my 9 year old bro still goes there and as soon as he hits 12 im taking him out, I see no intellectual development what so ever, so its okay for my bro now, but I think its useless to have hindu youth become zombies who are waiting for commands and orders to tell them when to sit, fetch and jump.
I think its a good for young children to socialise with other kids in their community. When i mean young I mean from the ages of 6 - 12ish, no more otherwise danger of not being able to think for yourself.
“what else unites us the way shakha does??not much”
Unites who? what or who does shakha unite? youth get together once a week for a couple of hours and play games, then they go home. It had actually done the complete opposite for me, i only met gujaratis at these shakhas and at the annual camps, so at what point are they planning to unite the rest of the hindus. Some shakha girls are so ignorant that they don’t even know theres such thing as a bengali Hindu, Nepaleese Hindu, Tamil Hindus, mauritian Hindus, panjabi Hindus… Theres alot out there, sometimes its right under your nose and you just can’t see it. Theres aloooot more out there than shakha, think outa the box and you will find it.
July 17th, 2007 at 12:44 am
“what else unites us the way shakha does??”
Well you’ll find more Hindus in nightclubs around the country so it doesn’t mean its a good thing now does it ? You’ll hardly find any Shaka person doing any Hindu activity let alone knowing anything about Hinduism so whats the difference then going to a club or a Shaka(samiti) I remember the head of NHSF (who are part of the RSS) on radio saying that drinking is ok in London in order to fit in. And can you give me any examples of where Shaka people have united Hindus ? I haven’t seen it upto this day..
July 17th, 2007 at 12:50 am
“This is sad seeing dat rss i7 hindu dharmas most known voice. ”
Very true and its the worse situation that Hindus have found themselves to have the RSS/VHP speaking for them..Look at the mess they’ve made of the Ram Sethu Campaign recently ..What a joke !
July 17th, 2007 at 1:07 pm
Yogeshji
If your question was directed at my post regarding the relevance, you may need to read the article again. Some very good points rasied by the others and this is precisely the sort of debate that needs to happen frequently. I am convinced that Hindu youth are keen to learn, understand and interact with not only elders but also other youth; shakha has always intended this along with all it’s sister ( no offenec intended to the brothers!
organisations. Intellectual stimulation and debate is great, but for uniting, it is not only the mind required but the heart. This kind of work requires both, and too often we have been led only by either; the youth have a tremendous capacity and opportunity to combine the mind and the heart and deliver,as Swami Vivekananda says, the very essence of the great Hindu dharma to not only the children of our ancestors but to the rest of the world.
July 24th, 2007 at 8:43 am
With all due respect, I’d like to put forward (again) my usual question in this kind of discussion - if ’shakha’ (i.e. Hindu Swayamsevak Sangh (UK)) is so bad, useless, self-serving, ineffectual and whatever other epithets may come out of the collective mud-slinging thesaurus, what exactly have those who complain done to improve it?
July 24th, 2007 at 10:22 am
Reply to Satya:
By making our opinions heard within the Shakha’s and the camps, I have been the main point of discussion in their “meetings”.
Even though the young girls agreed, the “elders” have so much hold on what goes on, and to what the girls actually “think” (to some extent) that its exactly like talking to a brick wall! (In some cases I would prefer this, at least you wouldnt get replies which are worthy of a 10 year old)
July 26th, 2007 at 5:47 pm
we hindus like to criticise and complain a lot. yet we sacrifice very little. ritu ji please help to promote and strengthen hinduism which is under assault from other faiths. let us stop this habit of self criticism for everything.
our family has been involved in Shaka for the last three generations. it is one institution that sees all the hindus of the world as one big family. hindus of all religious backgrounds and castes are seen only as hindus.
RSS inculcates patriotism and discipline. it is one institution which makes a hindu feel proud to be a hindu.i wish you would read the works of guru ji and other great leaders to appreciate the sacrifices they have done.
you cannot criticise an organisation for some local grievience.. madam please appreciate RSS and the thought behind this movement.
there are bound to be sub groups in any faith. you cannot call them self ish. i do not think i have ever felt any one group trying to criticise or dominate other hindu sects.
i think one has to be accomodative and cooperative in any institution to work effeciently.
however, i appreciate your love for your faith for you to write this article.please spread the wonderful message of hnduism to the world.
raksha aggarwal
July 27th, 2007 at 3:05 am
Shakha is indeed a backbone of organisation , to say that your opinion is not heard is something amazing ! In fact, a group discussion follows after every lecture by adhikaris of the Sangh.
July 31st, 2007 at 2:41 pm
Ritaji, Im sorry but I have to say, you have totally lost it!. I been going to shakha since the age of 5, that means I have been a totally commited Sevika for the last 9 years. You say you’ve been a member for 3 years? Compare your 3 years expirance to my 9. I have you know, HSS repeatedly remind the reason we attend shakha once a week, and I have not yet met a single Shiska who has spoken down on another organistaion.
Shakha does concentrate on the basics of the Hindu Dharma. We have Bhaudik sessions, we’re taught about either a religious story [Ramayan ect.] or about an important historical person, or even the history of shakha itself.
I myself have been to the shakha leaders. They are in no way ignorant, perhaps your greed to be able to put us down forced you to think like that. Show real concern, and they help.
Differnt leaders may have differnt views. The elders may say that shakha is the backbone… because they themselves were shakha members from a young age.
“Shakha had not allowed them the freedom to utilise their own intelligence and develop their own understanding of our religion.”
Shakha is open to new suggestions and opinions. If you think a view is wrong, there is no rule in which you cannot say you don’t agree.
The youths of today, and I speak of my age group, many alreaddy have not a lot of intrest in religion. For our parents, religion was a big thing, for us, for us youths at learge, a lot of us treat it like a chore, not like its something you WANT to follow.shakha is no chore for me, i go because i want to. Our leaders arent the cause for people to turn their backs on the organisations. its the lack of intrest to cause it.
People correct yourself, perhaps a more broader research amongst us proud sevika’s would change your opinion. You can’t label us bad for one or perhaps just your personal view.
July 31st, 2007 at 8:51 pm
rss is pakora gas thats all ppl need to know.
August 1st, 2007 at 3:20 pm
Sejal,
You are showing the exact same attitude as the “leaders” that you so very much cherish and the exact same attitude that Ritu was expressing in the article. Which is understandable because you spent so long in the organisation.
Its obvious from what you have written that you cannot take criticisms, at any cost. And when someone does criticise you find it very offensive, and consider it a personal attack.
“They are in no way ignorant, perhaps your greed to be able to put us down forced you to think like that. Show real concern, and they help.”
What from this article makes you think Ritu is not concerned? She has done exactly that, expressed her concern by writing an article highlighting improvements of not just RSS, but other Hindu groups aswell.
“Our leaders arent the cause for people to turn their backs on the organisations. its the lack of intrest to cause it.”
Lack of interest? Have you asked yourself what caused that lack of interest? I’ll tell you what did it for me, older girls and women and boys playing games. 30 minutes, was spent on playing games and 10 minutes on the bauddhik “intellectual” session. Now thats hardly going to inspire the sevikas, and people looking for inspiration is it?? and can you blame those people like ritu and myself who left because of this? (and other reasons)
“People correct yourself… You can’t label us bad for one or perhaps just your personal view. ”
So you dont think that your doing the exact same thing with Ritu, and now most probably me as well.
There is alot you can learn from the article, I would advise you to read it again, and take heed to what she advises.
August 1st, 2007 at 7:07 pm
Sejal,
You’re basically acting exactly like the people Rita is writing about.I’ve met many shaka people and tell you the truth they hardly know anything about Hinduism, Hindu history or politics. I’ve heard them say the most stupidest things which can make any Hindu feel embarrassed .I’ve overheard shaka boys talking about pulling girls and getting drunk and all that. I even know one who is very well respected and well known among the RSS in UK but I wont mention by name being a total pervert when he found out my cousin works on the airlines.All he wanted to know was how to pull air hostesses and are they easy.So don’t tell me that RSS is any better then the rest but could even be worse once everyone grows up.You’ll learn in time if you’re not completely brainwashed by RSS propaganda which seems by your post you already are.
August 1st, 2007 at 11:36 pm
Namaste
To find truth we must convey how we see things and compare it with how other people see them, and this will aid us to find out what is really there. The clash of inquiry will lead us to discovery. It is not wrong to disagree with each other, after all no opinion of any human can be regarded as absolute truth that no one can question.
I think one reason why some Hindu sects fail to make self analysis is that they fear doing so would bring them disgrace and cause them to lose focus and damage their image. As a matter of fact, this type of fear is unnecessary. The question lies in what attitude one adopts towards self analysis. Daring to acknowledge and correct one’s shortcomings will not harm one’s own image and prestige, more the opposite, it will guide them in becoming even stronger and even better. The problem here is that many people feel that analysing a sect or a religious based group is somehow wrong or shouldn’t be done. Sorry but since when has Hinduism not allowed space for improvement?
Rita Joshi
August 2nd, 2007 at 3:05 pm
The conflict you are all referring to is one of self and group identity. These two must be distinct. I do not join a cheer squad because I accept all that that cheer squad is known to do. I have my own reasons, my own motives, etc that at times will coincide with that group and at other times will oppose the group (why I chose no political party). Further, a group must declare its identity so people of a like mind can find it (and get its source of funding, etc). Yet more so, the group identity is mixed up with the founders and their personality - with strengths and weaknesses. The size of a group really reflects the level of general appeal the group holds (by force or by knowledge). But the more general the appeal the less identifiable the group.
All teams, like all society, are a process of sharing rights and duties to further the members of the group. Otherwise, the groups would be without members (unless they are forced into it as in feudal systems, slavery, indoctrination…)
The lesson would be that a group should not be seen as the end of journey (as the chritsoislamic groups see it) but rather the satsang that furthers us on ours. So long as the members and the group understand this need for transcendance, the conflict you are all describing becomes less (but for many groups this is a challenge to their identity - the one and only god, the one and only last prophet, the one and only voice of hindus, the one and only guru….- imagine if they could give up such ego/ethnocentric statements how the world would be better!)
hariaum
August 4th, 2007 at 6:51 pm
“Shakha” - HSS is the Largest volunteer organisation in the world
Find me another HINDU organisaion with over 50million members worldwide
Find me another HINDU organisation who has members from arya samaj, swaminaray, swadhyay and many more sects
Find me another HINDU organisation whose sole aim is to promote HINDU unity
August 4th, 2007 at 7:04 pm
Well only those that have been a part of HSS (Shaka) for a long time tuely understand its value. As a Swayemsevak for the past 14 years I, as well as many others, reflect on the experiences of HSS and realise what it has really done for us. It is not only a place where the Hindu community can unite, but it is a platform upon which the youth of today can stay in touch wth their roots. Shaka is not always about teaching but more importantly about inspiring individuals to ask the questions that trouble their mind or about the knowledge which they lack. Undoubedtly like any organisation in the world there will be “bad apples” but it is how you overcome this that is most important. My parents to this day say to me that HSS is what gave me the discipline in life, and that had it not been for obtaining that discipline I would not be half the person I am today. This is the case with most of the youths that go through HSS. Bringing together youth, under any platform that promotes the learning of Hindu traditions and culture, can only help in not only uniting the Hindu communtiy but continueing these tradition that are fastly disappearing from our world. As Henry Ford himself said “…Coming together is a beginning, staying together is progress and working together is a success…” For the hindu values that run through our veins for thousands of years to stay alive we must succeed in educating the youth of today, of which HSS is a platform that asks the right questions and more importantly helps us to ask questions. Jai Shree Krishna
August 4th, 2007 at 8:02 pm
“Find me another HINDU organisaion with over 50million members worldwide
Find me another HINDU organisation who has members from arya samaj, swaminaray, swadhyay and many more sects
Find me another HINDU organisation whose sole aim is to promote HINDU unity”
yep and there r millions of bacteria on this planet, so what exactly is their achievement ….
i guess we all can judge a tree by its fruits and as far as i can see in over 80 yrs rss hasn’t even fulfilled one major thing on the Hindu agenda.
anyway LTTE’s cadre strength does not cross 10,000 Tamils and i don’t see them pakora gassing all day ….
August 4th, 2007 at 8:06 pm
“Shakha” - HSS is the Largest volunteer organisation in the world”
Yeh and and so ..
More people eat chappatis in the world are in India.The most people who eat paan in the world are in India.India has the biggest dog population in the world..Of course will have more then anyone else because it has the second biggest population in the world.
“Find me another HINDU organisaion with over 50million members worldwide”
Most are in India and the reasons given are already above
“Find me another HINDU organisation who has members from arya samaj, swaminaray, swadhyay and many more sects?”
And what does that mean ? The only massive unity I see is in wearing outdated khaki shorts and its not surprising that an Italian is running the country.Just face it the RSS lives on its on hype but can’t make an impact on Hindu society who see it as a joke.
August 4th, 2007 at 8:56 pm
what a bunch of losers, they got 50 million members and they still can’t control india. Playing their little games in their khaki shorts while alot of their daughters run away with non-Hindus. When something happens they go make “POLEECE reporth” as if the cops are going to do anything.
The egotistical useless, Pokara gas leaders don’t even like when action minded Hindus do things on their own and try to put their Pokara gas RSS garbage to discourage action and defend their inaction.
If had 50 million members there would be no secular India and all these traitor commies and people like Deepa Mehta, Mahesh Bhatt wouldn’t be in india.
Yeah right man making machine. More like impotent chuddiwalah machines.
August 4th, 2007 at 8:56 pm
the gas is still releasing i guess.
August 4th, 2007 at 10:59 pm
To some extent I’d agree that RSS has not acheived much on a wider scale. But surely that is not reason enough to criticise it. Fact of the matter is regardless of wether it has 50 or 50 million members it is about gettin through to those people whose lives it will improve through the gaining of basic knowledge of their own religion and through the self discipline that HSS is all about. If RSS gets through to one single person then surely that should be seen as success in itself….In India it is hard to fathom it meaning anything but only when one talks about foreign nations where the Hindu community is in the minority does the impact of RSS really take effect. If it helps to bring Hindus together there then that is good enough. If you can’t agree with that point then ask yourself where you understand your roots from, and if at all Sangh has played a part in that understanding. Wether it be through RSS or its many organisations that stem from it, HSS and NHSF included, I am sure that it has benefited you in some way, shape or form.
August 5th, 2007 at 7:09 am
“To some extent I’d agree that RSS has not acheived much on a wider scale. But surely that is not reason enough to criticise it.
”
Well they can’t be teaching you Hinduism properly because even the Gods can be critcised.
“In India it is hard to fathom it meaning anything but only when one talks about foreign nations where the Hindu community is in the minority does the impact of RSS really take effect”
I’m yet to see that as I have not seen any evidence.Other Hindus orgs have been far more influential like the Swami Nayaran for example.
“If it helps to bring Hindus together there then that is good enough.”
Well where is that ? What Hindus ? The only thing shaka does is once a week playing children games and thats it.Where are all these Hindus when it comes to raise Hindu causes ? You dont see them anywhere doing anything for Hinduism apart from always patting themselves on the back.
“If you can’t agree with that point then ask yourself where you understand your roots from, and if at all Sangh has played a part in that understanding. Wether it be through RSS or its many organisations that stem from it, HSS and NHSF included, I am sure that it has benefited you in some way, shape or form. ”
I know for fact the Sangh has not played any part in any shape or form to know where my roots or anyone else I know are from.I think because you’re in the Sangh you cant see the reality outside which is totally different to what the Sangh thinks it is.I’ve come across many Sanghis and yet I find them totally lacking in knowledge in Hinduism or Hindu history or even aware of whats really going out there.All I ever hear them say is Doctorji this or Guruji this and thats about it.Also I’ve experienced them on several occasions spreading negative rumours about other active Hindu groups and individuals.There this one very well known culprit and RSS leader known very well for the type of anti-Hindu activity his name is Kishor Ruperialla and there’s a few more.You should read this online book that’s an eye opener to the Sangh..
WHITHER SANGH PARIVAR?
http://www.voiceofdharma.com/books/tfst/
August 5th, 2007 at 7:17 am
AJ.
RSS and HSS have never done anything for NRIs except do stupid games in the rented halls they have. I heard some muslim guy in UK went to a shakha and slapped around the shakha members while they just watched.
Stop making excuses for the chuddiwallah losers. These losers can’t even defend themselves and they want the title of defenders of Hinduism. They can’t even stop their women from running off with non hindus.
August 6th, 2007 at 11:10 am
Kalyani maybe you should let your brother make up his own mind as to wether or not he continues going to shakha or not, and Duryodhan what exactly did you do after you heard a muslim guy went and beat up some Hindus?? bet you did nothing…you thought to yourself “oh well i dont know any of the people who got hurt so its ok”
August 6th, 2007 at 11:11 am
shakha is a tool that needs to be utilised, I mean how can it hurt, send your kids there rather than them being sat at home watching tv…wheres the harm??
August 7th, 2007 at 2:25 am
or maybe you take personal responsibility and teach your kids at home instead of sending them to some place where they do funny exercises in 1930’s colonial style khaki shorts.
August 7th, 2007 at 5:54 pm
Yeah Dharmesh, I didn’t do nothing because the RSS deserved it. I never had any problems because i ain’t one to just take a beating. I rather have tried to fight back and get a beating then just take it like a loser.
Dharmesh what would you have done and have you ever backed anybody up in a fight?
I have. Thats the difference between you and me. If my friends did nothing wrong and got a beating for just being a Hindu. You can bet that revenge is gonna be given.
November 6th, 2007 at 8:03 pm
“rss hasn’t even fulfilled one major thing on the Hindu agenda.”
Today, RSS is carrying out over 70,000 sewa (service) projects in India alone.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1013666219441914390&q=sewa+disha&total=1&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0
Ekal Vidyalaya, Vanvasi Kalyan Ashram, Sewa International, all inspired by RSS, are making tremendous contributions in the realm of social service.
In the 1969 Udupi (Karnataka) convention of the VHP (another Sangh-inspired organization), leaders of all the religions including those from Jainism, Buddhism, Sikhism, Veer-Shaivas, Dharmacharyas and Shakaracharyas (along with the Peethadhish of the Harijans) were on the dais. In the presence of 15,000 delegates from all over Karnataka, with the unanimous direction of all the religious leaders, a far-reaching resolution was passed a declaration that
‘There is no place for untouchability in Hinduism.’
The eradication of untouchability was an item that most people viewed as VERY high on the “Hindu agenda.”
Shri Guruji, who was Sarsanghachalak of RSS at that time, was instrumental in organizing this convention and getting the resolution passed.
April 15th, 2008 at 8:31 pm
Rita, Good article.
What you think can be better ways for RSS to perform?
What steps do you think should be taken at shakha?
Being a hindu by birth when you cannot explore hinduism by your own, how can some one teach you about hinduism at shakha?
RSS was never formed to teach hinduism but it was formed to build the strength of unity among Hindus. Didnt you think the games,baudhik and shivirs contributes towards that?