Janmashtami bomb attack
On Wednesday 16th July 2006, Janamashtami celebrations in an International Society for Krishna Consciousness (ISKCON) temple in the North-East Indian state of Manipur came to a sudden halt, as the occasion became the target of a devastating terrorist grenade blast.
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August 20th, 2006 at 8:55 pm
The world media ignored this News as far as I know. Obviously Hindu deaths are of no concern to anyone these days. Even Asian papers in UK as far as I know have not commented on this terrible News.
August 21st, 2006 at 7:12 am
maananiya bhandhavas
saprema savinya pranams
i dont have anything to say excepting ” hindus have intolerable tolerance”
in the name of ahimsa we became cowards
with regards
nandhitha
August 21st, 2006 at 10:21 am
Are we, the Hindus be coming the minority in our own country? Who ever did this they are B******
August 21st, 2006 at 11:53 pm
all temples should now focus on security aspect and some devotees should act as security volunteers. They should be given basic training in security check , keeping eye on doubtful persons , explosives detection . A trained dog should be kept by every temple where there is considerable crowd.
August 22nd, 2006 at 9:38 am
I cant speak for all the temples, but i know that this year the ISKON temple in watford (just outside london, uk), took the security aspect very seriously this year and over the 2day festival that was celebrated last wednesday and on sunday, mass security was provided- a professional company was present, police forces as well as st johns abulance service and the manor’s own security which was formed by some volunteers, who were given adequate training. it was very impressive and ensured that devotees and visitors of the temple felt secure and gave assurance that there would be help readily available, and that precautions were being taken.
such an aspect is so important especially at the moment, where there will be large crowds at festivals and events such as these.
as far as media coverage is concerned, i find it disgusting that there has been no concern or mention in the press- not that i have read anyway. as far as i know, complaints have been made to the bbc about this as well.
August 24th, 2006 at 7:49 am
Another sad day for Hinduism and its affiliates.
I agree with the above reader …in the name of “Ahimsa” we have become “cowards”. Ahimsa is good but where force is required force must be brutally applied and apply ahimsa to people who truly understand the concept. In the Gita , Shri Krishna (God) persuades Arjuna (Humanity) to battle demon forces both within and without. Arjuna may have required persuasion at first but he soon understood Krishna’s message and without looking back helped vanquish the Kaurav forces. In the same way we need to ask ourselves what is more important : the lives of innocent people or the lives of the gastly demonic creatures who masquerade around in human form.
It is time we stopped “restraining” oueselves and proclaim to the world that enough is enough. If Bush can go half way around the world to destroy his enemy why is it always necessary to “restrain” ourselves. Are we children of a lesser God ? Apart from the destruction to Hindu life and property in India is there anything done to alleviate the plight of Hindus in East Bengal (Bangladesh) where the Hindu population drops 50% every 50 year ? How about an article devoted specifically to this hapless and besieged society ? Generations will go by and questions will be raised : “what did the world do to stop this “genocide” ?
Hari Om.
Mansukh M Chhiba
August 25th, 2006 at 2:33 pm
This is very sad indeed. Jai Shri Krishna.
BTW, any more info on who may be responsible?
August 31st, 2006 at 8:36 pm
I don’t expect christo-islamic media to care about hindus despite their claim to neutrality.
We do have to fight. Brutality is not acceptable. Effectively is the goal. The failure of Bush’s policy is not in military might but in misunderstaning etiology. We do need to capture and prosecute himsa oriented demonic natures and at teh same time we need to reform the source of himsa ideologies - get into the madrasas, into pakistan, mecca and force and education of liberalizing minds - the enlightenment the Hanuman brought to Lanka if see the story as spiritual metaphor (not burning them down). Then the Vibishans among them can warn them of their demonic nature. If that fail then justice must be served - jai Ram, kali, …
hariaum
September 4th, 2006 at 8:12 pm
if we can’t get the hindus to be hindu, how can we claim a right to make the christo-islamists better - more hindu? I don’t say violence in itself is wrong, but himsa is wrong.
We msut of course fight governments that impose restriction on truth seeking - The saudis, Pakistan, Vatican… We must also place in front of madrasas Gita slokas that exlain there is another way so that the students know they are being brain washed. We must also arrest and prosecute people who attack civil order (regardless of religion). But we must also love all of humanity, we must hold hope where all have given up hope, we must provide aid where the others provide hate.
We do not have the easy path of false faiths available to us. Ravaana (Hitler, the Popes, Bin Laden…) is the result of such a route. We are chosen to be the guides of the world. This must be in faith, action, and thought. If it was easy even the muslims and christians could do it. Remember, some of them do understand. How many christians don’t go to chruch becasue they can hear the lies? Why are the churches of Europe empty - the people have figured it out. Was it because we were better warriors that Europe was largely freed of christian hate? No it was because people saw a better way - the mayans, the incas, the Hindus, the Buddhists… all these stopped the scourge of christianity in Europe. It is through this diversity of God that we will win the actual war. A gun will only place the karma of himsa from one person onto another. But don’t fail to act on teaching. Remind your christian friends and muslims friends that by paying to their church or mosque they are trying to destroy hinduism - then ask them if that is what they believe should happen.
hariaum
September 15th, 2006 at 8:47 pm
I am upset by these attacks and I am fairly sure that militant Muslims are the culprits. I am in no way blaming all our brethren Muslim beings, but militant strands are surely to blame. I have studied the many paths in order to find my way to God. I tried Christianity, Neo-Paganism, Islam and Buddhism, and found all to be full of happy, kind, God-fearing people. However I was constantly drawn back to Sri Ramakrishna and Sai Baba of Shirdi. I admit I am going a bit off topic, but we must not persecute Muslims for these attacks. I believe that these are caused by the brainwashing by global Jihadists. Personally I believe in the giving of Kashmir to Pakistan to stop any more violence. I know many will disagree but I know that Kashmir is a key part of Islamic agitation. Personally I am against the partition of India, but, it’s too late now…
October 14th, 2006 at 7:21 pm
The ISKON blast took life of International Head of the organisation and there is no mention about it in media. No body bothers about Hindus. We have to be assertive and show the world that we are strong and can fight back like it happened three hundred years before …ChhatraPati Shivaaji started it, his descendants continued it. Baajirao Peshwa and other Maraathaas did it till 19th century. We are Hindus due to them. No body talks about this history. Let us revive the History books too. Be Strong. Our every God and Goddess is embodiment of Shakti and Valor. Where is that gone ? Jaagrat Hindu Jaagrat !!!
Start reconversion to Hinduism on large scale. There is no infrastructure to that. If others are say ‘Conversion is their right’ or ‘Kill the ones who dont believe in our beliefs’ then why Hindus holding back? Why are they not starting even getting back their own brothers and sisters who have been decieved and converted to other religions ? Start it on large scale. Talk about it wherever you go…
September 15th, 2007 at 7:26 am
jai shree krishana, hi i visited this site first time . i m also a hindu and also worshiped lord krishana and want to join ur community. plz add me as a member , i belongs to india . the birht place of lord krishana . plz reply me soon .
jai shri krishana.
anil
india
September 19th, 2007 at 3:53 pm
Very disturbing indeed that Islamic terrorists strike at the very heart of Hinduism, in a Hindu & Sikh land.
Can you, for a moment, imagine the uproar in by the Indian press, and indeed by the international media if a Mosque was attacked by Indians, and Muslims were killed in the blast? Haribol & others make a good point.
There are some good thoughts here on both sides of the divide, where Navin’s moderate view is tolerant and full of “faith in human kind” so to speak where we tolerate brutality directed at us, but retaliatory action is “not acceptable”. His approach as expressed above would be ineffective as Muslims who live in India know we will refrain albeit out of moderation, or fear and cowardice perhaps as mentioned by someone above? As regards his point:
“…reform the source of himsa ideologies - get into the madrasas, into pakistan, mecca and force and education of liberalizing minds …”
is I am afraid not only a non-starter, but deeply wishful thinking.
I have little to say to Convert, except that he is moderate in the extreme, and “overlooks” that Muslims living in India support their terrorists brethren - otherwise they would be on the streets demonstrating and rioting as at the time of the Danish cartoonist and the Iraq war. I cannot find a way to accommodate any of his thoughts in my mind, especially that of giving Kashmir to Pakistan being the solution - either misguided, or “misplaced” loyalty, and certainly not that of a Hindu or a Sikh.
Please have a look at this link: http://www.orkut.com/Home.aspx
It would be so good to talk to Hindu Dharmaa Rakshak, Anil, Nandhitha & indeed with Navin too along with others who may have an interest.
September 20th, 2007 at 6:42 pm
Land for peace does not work.
The wishful thinking of getting into the madrasas is really that. But wishes can drive action that can give results. Imagination, effort, skill… we certainly need these. Buddhi is our greatest resource. I believe the internet will force an open discussion of dharma, and truth will be victor. But we should not rely on just the internet (radio, leaflets…) Whatever we do, we must (as my president says) take the fight to them.
hariaum
September 25th, 2007 at 10:34 am
Navin,
I had posted a comment in response to what you’ve said. It was somewhat precise, and I had quizzed part of what you have said.
My comment was censored.
Pity - I had made a pointedly open and a factual point so “we dont beat about the bush” to try and draw comparative attention to the moderate Hindu thinking which is reflected in what you say.
My feelings are that unless strength is met by equal, if not overwhelming strength, then Hindus, Hinduism and India will be ground down like wheat into flour, and consumed by others like the daily roti we eat.
September 27th, 2007 at 9:22 pm
I appreciate the catagorization as a moderate. I’ve always called myself a radical, on this web site I’ve been called not hindu enough, and at other places I’ve been called a fundamentalist. So much energy, so little definition.
I am not a pacifist. Arjuna did not fight with moderate prowess. He fought to win. So we must.
To me the idea of India as a political entity is not so important. As the home of a historical example to guide us (the world) into a peaceful future, it is extremely important.
The idea of hinduism as at risk points to a finite, time bound geographic entity. I have a particular affection for this time bound entity but it is not Hinduism, which is etrenal truths that can not be defeated. Even the most chaotic person gets mad when someone cuts them off on the road - the rules transcend name and ethnicity… all categories.
What I want to fight for is humanity. For a way of life of sentient entities that express the divine ananda. But this is not easy as being physically stronger, rather the more difficult spiritually in tune.
So fight for India, if you identify yourself as Indian>Hindu. Fight for Hindu if you identify yourself as Hindu>India. fight for allah if you identify yourself as allah>god… No one should tell you not to fight your conscience.
But for me, on a spiritual path, these categories are only useful as tools. And tools are only as useful as their efficiency in getting the job done. And the job is not for me to prove my ego is more worthy than another’s.
hariaum
January 6th, 2008 at 12:47 pm
Haribol all!
I know I am reading this a bit late but I agree with Sonal. I was at Watford Bhaktivedanta Manor (one of the 2 ISKON temples in London.) We were told to think of the devotees that lost their lives and to be vigilant. However, we stood defiant and continued celebrating the birth of our Lord.
Security at the manor is very good and the only way to react to an atrocious act like this is to make our faith in the Lord stronger.
As for the karma of those that carried out these attacks.. its unthinkable! The devotees that lost their lives died whilst surrounded by devotees and probably chanting the holy name..
Donna